In this clip from MTV News and Rob Markman, Talib Kweli recalls a night at the legendary Lyricist Lounge showcase when a young Diddy confronted a young Mos Def about his “Children’s Story” remake that appeared on the Black Star album, the lyrics of which were widely believed to be directed at Puff.

“Mos told him, ‘It wasn’t directed at you personally. It’s directed at everything that’s going on in the business,’ ” Kwe said of the interaction. “That was one of the illest conversations that I ever seen.”

Previously: Black Star (Mos Def & Talib Kweli) – You Already Knew (Live On Jimmy Fallon)